beaswellgirl asked: Thank God this exists! My recovery was slowed down so many times by being told by trained professionals that I can't be both vegan and ed free. They would say that I restrict those foods because I want an excuse for eating more fruit. Well, no, I'm restricting those foods because I have common sense and feelings and don't see why another being has to suffer and die just so I could have a snack. How do you feel about 80-10-10 diet and ed? Has anyone tried it? Hope you have a wonderful day.
Have you questioned your motives in changing your eating practices? And I mean really questioned them. Some times it is a struggle to differentiate between yourself and the cunning dialogue of the disease.
For those who don’t know- the 80-10-10 is a fruit based diet. 80-10-10 was written by a doctor which would lead you to believe he knows a fair amount about health. Turns out he is a chiropractic doctor which can be misleading.
I personally was on this “diet” when I hit my rock bottom. When I look back I can recognize why it was such a deadly idea.
The 811 is no more ethical vs a whole foods vegan diet. It simply promises reaching and maintaining a low body weight while providing more energy. If you visit online forums you will see that this energy is mainly used for excessive exercise.
You have an eating disorder and will have to learn to manage it for the rest of your life by avoiding triggers such as these. It is literally a matter of life and death.
I agree with your about your ethical standpoint and I know it is a struggle. But please entrust your recovery in your doctors. Do not make any changes to your diet without professional help. Do your best to get the help of a vegan dietitian on board once you are in a place to do so. At that time see if your treatment program will support small substitutions that do not change the caloric or nutritional content of your food. For now- focus on getting well. You can’t live to be a better person if you are dead.
One day at a time!
moonbeamsunray asked: Hi, I've recently decided to go vegan (been a vegetarian for 3-4 years) but my eating disorder also happens to be particularly bad right now and my outpatient team are threatening to send me to inpatient if I continue to lose. Do you know if they'd make me abandon veganism or vegetarianism in an inpatient center?
I would strongly discourage making any changes to your diet while you are having difficulties with your ED. Making specific changes could become actual triggers once you are fully sober in your eating practices. I would say wait until you are in a stable place and make the transition with the support of a vegan friendly dietitian.
- Margaret Wheeler Johnson (via embracefreespo)
- SIX WORD POEM (11/13/13)
veganbutterflyz asked: Please can I have advice? I am the highest weight that I have ever been, and no longer have a thigh gap, all my really bad thoughts are creeping in and telling me not to eat, I have been limiting my calories to 700 a day and burning 800, I can't stop myself. I've gained over a stone from binging😭😭😭 I starve then binge, it's such a horrid cycle. Please help me ,I don't know what to do I feel so fat, I just want freedom, I feel so trapped. Love chloe X Sent from my iPhone
It sounds like you “feel” trapped because you really are REALLY ARE TRAPPED. What you are describing to me doesn’t sound like much of a life. Your disease has you cornered.
When there is weight gain we tend to think that we are “bad” anorexics and bulimics and that we can be “better” anorexics and bulimics- if we only try a little bit harder. Unfortunately, the best anorexics and bulimics are dead.
There is no getting out of this on your own. If you could outsmart this thing by now you would have.
Ask yourself the following questions,
-Are you happy?
- What do you want to be doing with your life? (Aside from getting really, really, really, skinny)
-How do you want see yourself in 1 years’ time (Aside from being really, really, really, skinny)
-Who do you love? Do you want these relationships to last?
-What has this eating disorder taken from you?
-What would you like to get back?
I can GUARANTEE you there are recovery programs available to you. I can also guarantee you that if you live somewhere that doesn’t have free healthcare THERE IS A WAY to get money via family members, loans, etc . But first, you have to ask for help. It’s up to you to decide when to throw in the towel and admit that you’ve had enough.
Put yourself first. If that means that the ONLY available recovery program will not allow you to be vegan please, give in and go with it. If you really do believe in animal rights you will get through this so you can fight another day. Get healthy and relearn (or maybe learn for the first time) -how to eat. Use those skills to get you through life so you can stand up for what you believe in.
One day at a time.
There are dietitians available who will support you in being vegan when you are in that place. But right now you need to make yourself the priority. You can’t change the world if you aren’t in it anymore.
Take care, and write back when you can.
whitmoreuniverse asked: Hello there! I found your blog today and am a recovering anorexic and vegan. I was really lost until I found this site and had genuine hope for recovery and being a vegan simultaneously. I see you discussing ABA and was wondering if you could talk more too that and how you found eating support with a vegan supporter and/or sponsor. Thank you for this. Everything...
Thanks for writing. I’m glad to hear that you are asking about ABA. I can credit it for saving my life.
Finding a vegan sponsor was a struggle because, as you know; many people still believe that veganism itself is an eating disorder. Finding a sponsor is kind of like dating: you get to know someone that you like, you get the nerve to ask them to coffee, and then you ask them if they will deal with your personal life and emotional baggage. This can be quite challenging because those with eating disorders tend to have low self-esteem and rejection issues. Every person has their own definition of sobriety and if a potential sponsor doesn’t share your vision they probably can’t give you what you need.
While searching for sponsor I had to keep reminding myself that a sponsor should be someone with the sobriety I want. A sponsor’s job is to lead you down the path that worked for them. There are many different paths and none of them are right or wrong. That being said, I did meet many people who believed I could never be a “sober” vegan. There were also many people who told me ABA did not support veganism. I contacted the ABA world office and was relieved to hear that was not the case.
Eventually I met someone who lived a far distance from me and agreed to sponsor me over the phone. She told me that sobriety is about being able to surrender food. She herself was celiac and she knew that if her sponsor told her to eat cheese and crackers she could eat cheese and gluten free crackers. In my case as long as I was willing to eat vegan cheese and crackers, I was sober as well.
For me, accepting a sponsor was one of the biggest hurdles. Sponsors tell you what you NEED to hear- not what you necessarily WANT to hear. Trusting someone to tell you what to eat or give advice…is terrifying. Remember that they know what they are doing and they are leading you with their sober mind to a place of strength and freedom from this awful disease.
If you have any other questions about perusing a vegan friendly sponsor through ABA please send me a message with your e-mail and we can chat further.